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Post by SisterCoyote on May 27, 2011 20:07:47 GMT -5
Sorry I'm late. Mod was killing zombies with plants.
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Post by 5 of Hearts on May 27, 2011 20:09:43 GMT -5
If I had a dime for every time I heard that excuse...
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Post by 5 of Hearts on May 27, 2011 20:23:02 GMT -5
Ok, so I think we need to either NK Moley or do not do any NK. He is suspicious of me and I am afraid if I sent a PM to the MODm he will find out that 1. I am the Godfather and 2. whoever I send to kill is SCUM. Unless I do the killing, but if MHaye decides to pick me for the LD, I am hosed...
This is a hard decision. I think MHaye will be protected by the doc so if we are not going to killMoley then I would go after Archangel, I sense she is the DOC like Guiri said.
The only thing Moley has on me is not going against Squink but I can some squash his theory by stating that I have not gone up against, Septimus, Storyteller, CIAS, Bill, yeah that would be most everyone. I never agreed with what Squink said or believed... Plus the fact that he has been wrong many times prior...
Thoughts?
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Post by March Hare on May 27, 2011 20:32:21 GMT -5
I have a date I have to pay attention to I will be more better and here tomorrow (if not later tonight) : I don't feel right giving up a NK But I'm just vanilla so you can send me for the NK can I ask for a role call please I keep getting mixed up I want to kill bill twice at this point (I see why SCUM kills him early) ** waves at Bill when he reads this** LightFoot now vanilla
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Post by March Hare on May 27, 2011 20:34:15 GMT -5
WTF Guiri care to give me your thoughts on what you were after at me?
It is bad enough Town does not read my stuff now I get this too? I was willing to take the hit if it saved our politician BUT why so tough?
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Post by 5 of Hearts on May 27, 2011 20:49:47 GMT -5
If we do a NK we have to take out Moley, i have a feeling that he is going to send my name to Sisc to Hear something from a PM, I don't want him to catch 2 of us. If he hears Sending Lightfoot to Kill Bill he will know I am the Godfather and you are scum as well.
I would not doubt it if MHaye does the LD on you Lightfoot, he is trusting Bill. If the statement of Bill being the Scotsman is true then even if we NK him, he will not die.
I think Guiri was trying to save Squink and to gain some town cred. Most Town thinks Guiri is town, which is good.
I am going to bed soon. Cold meds are kicking in.
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Post by 5 of Hearts on May 27, 2011 21:01:50 GMT -5
oh forgot, Ginger
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Post by March Hare on May 27, 2011 22:34:34 GMT -5
the scotsman died with carlo I believe that I think is as a gambit and Sp and I both busted him before I lthrow you under the buss pleae take a momment some tine this Night to post your in game name and your role powers Seriously
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Post by 8ofhearts on May 28, 2011 2:10:28 GMT -5
I've never played in a game against Bill where we've both been alive so long. It's crazy how good he is and how some players just blindly follow him. Apart from the WoW, there was no case made against Metallic, no matter what they say, she wasn't defending Meeko, just questioning Bill's cryptic vote, and she had just 3 votes.
I expected the same might happen to you tomorrow or the Day after. I valued Metallic's power over your role but had to express suspicion of her and make a better case against someone else - either to draw votes to the alternative or at least pre-earn some cred if you go down toMorrow.
I mentioned that I thought Metallic seemed convinced that Meeko's vote actually had been bought - hoping that if she claimed policitician, her comments on Meeko could be explained by PIS and not necessarily by being a fellow scum but she didn't claim.
I also left open a window to unvote you, as I did with Meeko, by asking you to explain your D1 vote, defend yourself from CIAS' accusations, and your reasons for avoiding Meeko D3. These were all going to come back at you sooner or later so to do so under just a little pressure would have made you look somewhat better later in the game.
Remember, the bussing cred works both ways. If I'm killed toNight or lynched toMorrow, you'll gain some credibility as we've put some distance between ourselves.
In the end we're up against an enormous quantity of anti-scum powers. Ginger and I have a little chance of surviving a few more Days but I'm not giving up without a fight.
@ Ginger, how about sending 20 separate blank PMs to Sister? Then the chance of him choosing you AND receiving a snippet from the actual Night actions PM is very small.
Sister, would a snippet from a blank PM be included in the random snippet selection?
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Post by 5 of Hearts on May 28, 2011 6:34:39 GMT -5
@guiri - I thought about that, but I was not sure if SisC would just use the one that had content. The only thing is that if I send blank ones or just random thoughts, Moley will have enough to suspect me more. kind of the theory why am I sending these thoughts to the MOD. If I send PMs I need to send them as if I am protecting someone as if I was the DOC. Send 20 to SisC saying I am protecting MHaye.
Bill is wicked good. All he does is sniff and find scum, I don't get it. I think I have found 2 SCUM in 5 games...
who should we take out?
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Post by 8ofhearts on May 28, 2011 6:59:48 GMT -5
We should not kill Archangel. Those two final votes may come in very useful if we make it to a 3-1 end game and she's VT, a quick vote will break the tie, and an NK will win the game. Town may choose to "deal with" her earlier as she becomes a liability. We should attempt to kill one of: - the partially confirmed - Bill or Suburban - MHaye - before he gets any more results - or ideally the Doc What we know: Bill - Alice - VT but possibly scotsman Lightfoot - March Hare - strongman Moley - dormouse - gossip Archangel - - vanilla Suburban - white rabbit - Ginger - 5 of hearts - godfather Guiri - 8 of hearts - vanilla MHaye - Caterpillar - lie detector 4 of the following 6 are VT Gnarly - did he cancel his own vote? Septimus (definitely a Heart) Story Ma'at Rysto (not Doc) CIAS (not Queen of Hearts) We have yet to see: Jack of All Trades Doctor And something else. There could be one more politician if the JOAT didn't cancel Gnarly's vote 2 of these characters remain in play: The Duck The Lory The Duchess The Hatter - Doctor? The Gryphon The Mock Turtle - Jack of all trades? Pat Do we know anything else? Any ideas who the Doc could be, if there even is one? Guessing at the points system: Scum (5): Godfather (Ginger): 7 Watcher (Meeko): 5.5 Strongman (Lightfoot): 5.5 Politician (Metallic): 5.5 Vanilla (Guiri): 4.5 Total: 28 Town (15): Cop (Special): 4 One-shot roleblock of all NKs (Colby): 3 Gossip (Moley): 2 Vig (Dirx): 2.5 Lie detector (MHaye): 4 VT1 (Ace): 1 VT2 (Pinkies): 1 VT3 (Archangel): 1 VT4, 5, 6, 7, Politician, Doc, Other (Gnarly, Septimus, Story, Ma'at, Suburban, Rysto, CIAS): 4+2+3+2 29.5 A unkillable one-shot SK (Bill) and a 3rd party politician (Fluid) could go either way although Bill's hurting us more than Town. I really hope Bill's full of it. A 3rd party one-shot killer who is immune to one Night kill every Night who can then self-recruit as a Townie and theoretically use a one-shot block of all Night kills seems somewhat overpowered! Sister,
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Post by 8ofhearts on May 28, 2011 7:10:44 GMT -5
Stupid phone.
Sister, assuming there is an eavesdropper in this game who receives a random sentence from a selected player's Night communication with the mod, would the sender - the player or the mod - be identified?
@ Ginger, maybe 20 PMs with the word "Confirmed." (20 times!) would work better than a blank PM or a random message. You'd still need to claim a role but wouldn't be limited to Doc. Either way it may be best to just run the risk and hope he doesn't select you.
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Post by 5 of Hearts on May 28, 2011 7:51:27 GMT -5
@guiri - I am his #1 suspect with the last post of Day 4. BUT he may think that I wont make a move tonight because I am his @1 suspect and leave me alone. Who knows... We can run the risk. I will send Lightfoot to do the kill, since you have more town credit. I will send 20 PMs (SORRY SisC in advance!) with the word Confirmed in it.
I tend not to believe Archangel, but I do think we need to keep her in. Rysto is WAY too quiet and has not drawn suspicion from anyone. We may need to push his out of hiding.
My theory on using the DOC role to send the PMs is that when he hears my protect statement he may not come out and say who I am during the day to protect me. A Townie will not out the DOC.
I would be good with killing MHaye, but don't you think the DOC will protect him since he is so valuable?
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Post by 8ofhearts on May 28, 2011 8:38:50 GMT -5
Yes, I'd prefer to try to kill Bill or the Doc first. We may be able to identify the Doc from among the players I listed:
- Gnarly, who may have canceled his own vote to prove a JOAT or politician power - Septimus, who is definitely a Heart, probably the Queen - Story - Ma'at - CIAS, who is not the Queen
I'm leaning towards CIAS being the Doc. If he is the Doc, he'd have no reason to suspect Archangel was the Doc who protected Bill N1 and deduced he must be Town as there were no kills. It's weak but until I do a re-read (yet another), I've no better lead. I doubt Septimus would have stood out so early with his partial claim. I don't see why any Townie would cancel Gnarly's vote. I have no read on Story.
More later.
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Post by 8ofhearts on May 28, 2011 9:30:28 GMT -5
Sorry I'm late. Mod was killing zombies with plants. Are plants effective weapons in the fight against zombies? Or were these zombies the plant-bearing type that require prompt annihilation?
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