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Post by Dodo Bird on May 7, 2011 9:06:20 GMT -5
The problem is IF they can tell that their vote was changed/not theirs you are outed My guess is that whoever I target is going to say that they have to vote for that person because they were forced. It's not a claim or anything so it's a safe thing to claim for the voter. With that assumption (i.e., that everyone will know the vote is forced), I was thinking I could target one of us to vote for one of us. So let's say I made Meeko vote for guiri. Meeko could go in toMorrow and say "hey, I have to vote for guiri because of a PM I got this morning." guiri might be a good vote, too, since he got a vote yesterDay. Maybe septimus would reconsider his vote on guiri since he might think a scum politician forced a vote on a townie guiri. The converse may be a good plan as well (have guiri vote for Meeko) since Meeko also got a vote. The only problem is that Dirx voted for Meeko and everyone seems to think Dirx is the greatest scum hunter ever so town might see through that little ruse.
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Post by 5 of Hearts on May 7, 2011 9:06:28 GMT -5
@squink - I think that is a good idea, but we have to keep in mind WIFOM. I know somebody will come back and say that a scum would use their power to vote on another scum to throw town off. I was silenced in the last game and most of them thought that I was scum and that scum silenced scum to throw them off. I will most likely send the Guiri to kill tonight. Since you are vanilla scum. I don't want to lose the other powers and if I am investigated I want to show as town. I doubt I will be investigated. I didn't draw that much attention yesterday unless your talking about Moley. If I was the cop I would either look at Moley because of how defensive he was at the end or I would look at CatInaSuit. There are a lot of some new players this round so they don't know about ED. Not sure who I would protect if I was the DOC, I am going to say Moley again because of his restrictions on posting and the hint that it says he has a power role. To kill: Rysto - has been very quiet. Paranoia - I don't like the way that he just came back on the boards after just posting 1 post all week. Special ED - might be a WTF are they up to know kind of kill. I have to run errands but will be back later. I would almost like to keep Cap around till day 3. I have yet to be in a game where he contributes or makes it to day 3. It might throw off people. Bill does seem distracted in this game, maybe that will be to our advantage. Maybe we should send him to France again...
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Post by Dodo Bird on May 7, 2011 9:11:02 GMT -5
I agree that the vote could be interpreted either way.
As for killing, I like either Rysto or Paranoia. The thing about Ed is that he does seem unusually quiet. I wonder if he's a PFK or something. Whether that means we should kill him or not, I'm not sure. I'm wondering if we can build a case against him because of it toMorrow.
Based on what you are saying about Moley, I think Meeko should watch him. I was outed as a doc once because there was a scum watcher who watched a very vocal player who everyone visited that Night. Maybe other town powers won't be that dumb, though!
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Post by Dodo Bird on May 7, 2011 9:16:04 GMT -5
By the way, I changed my profile to appear offline just in case anyone is watching. I will try to be here as much as I can this weekend, though.
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Post by Dodo Bird on May 7, 2011 9:18:33 GMT -5
Actually, I think I see now what you guys mean about other spoiled players. You mean players that are spoiled in other games but not this one. I'm off to change my user name!
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Post by 8ofhearts on May 7, 2011 9:40:59 GMT -5
Thoughts: 3 Moley - #163, why did he mention the post restriction? Obviously non-VT but could be minor power. His restriction seems pointless unless he's Alice, which would fit the color, but he's denied being Alice. He seems to be aware of the existence of the red queen and that's she's dangerous, how?
5 Special - laying very low, possibly has a lot to lose
7 Colby - the only player besides Ace who hesitated to claim Town, possible 3rd party? Or just a noob?
9 Septimus - #152, probable VT
13 Story - laying relatively low
14 Paranoia: in #40 he talks about scum having a godfather and "an investigative role of their own", could he be a cop? Add laying low, makes him an interesting target
15 Suburban: #291 his "interesting theory" comment on all playing cards being vanilla could indicate he is a non-vanilla playing card
17 Fluid - power? Nice safe "me too" vote on Ace
22 CIAS - possible VT?
More advice: - Don't gloat, i.e. at Dawn don't comment on how much it sucks to lose a power/townie/player, unless there's been a bloodbath! - Don't overly encourage participation - Don't post information (such as a WoW or a color-coded vote count) without analysis - Don't try too hard to look like a helpful Townie - Don't say you find no-one scummy
For toNight I'd suggest killing either Bill (with the Strongman power) or Paranoia (ha, 3rd game in a row but always for the same reason). Watching Moley is a good idea but could backfire if Town thinks the same. The politician power is probably best to use on a Townie toNight and vote for Pinkies
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Post by Dodo Bird on May 7, 2011 9:44:50 GMT -5
and since you have more experience than me, feel free to tell me advice... So any scum except me can do the killing correct? I was not aware that you couldn't ....... were you told that you couldnt? I would really like to watch my self tonight...... I'm .......my play is legendary*. Feel that someone is going to "" touch "" me tonight. *Legendary != Good, Paragon (ical ?) I see. Are you thinking that you are a good target and so if you watch yourself, you can see who visits you? I don't think we've played together before so I'm wondering why you think you're a more likely target than someone else.
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Post by Dodo Bird on May 7, 2011 10:05:13 GMT -5
How would watching Moley backfire on us? If town sees Meeko there and Meeko sees town there, it's a null-tell, don't you think? That being said, I don't think we should kill Moley for the same reason (there may be a town watcher there).
Maybe we could have Dirx vote for pinkies.
Maybe we should kill Ed. He only had 13 posts all Day and voted for Ace. That shouldn't give town much to go on and it also makes me think Ed has something to hide. Although I know he is playing a game on GB so maybe he is just tied up over there. I just reviewed his posts from the Day and he doesn't say much of anything, at least nothing that I would find particularly revealing if he does turn up town.
The other option is to kill Dirx or BillMc but I hate to kill players just because they are good. Partly because it's not fun for them and partly because everyone will take whatever they said so far much more seriously.
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Post by March Hare on May 7, 2011 10:43:26 GMT -5
1 I think Moley has enough of the town players suspicious of him that Town may take care of him(I think he may be some ajdusted version of the Gossip)?
I do have a feeling that someone will investigate him toNight
2 When I played with ace b4 (if she is AMY) I was so frustrated with her play as SCUM (I guess now that is just how she plays)
3 [askmod] can we have 'cover names' ie cards not used for the 'named ppl here'? [/askmod]
4 I would like this verified.
5 (I'm female )
6 The only game I played with paranoia s/he was killed NK early so I don't know anything about the player
7 watching Ed might be a good idea
8 @ Dodo (smiley) that might be usefull later in game but I'm not sure it is a good idea this early? (if one of us was close to the lynch the previous Day maybe) I take it you don't like my thought about making BillMc the vote target?
9 The only time I was SCUM it was on the FB boards and the other 3 were not big communicators - different time zones etc
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Post by March Hare on May 7, 2011 10:56:50 GMT -5
in response to 8ofhearts 3 the red queen is ALWAYS evil in the games I have played/read
5 Yep ED seems a bit different this game
7 I always kill Colby every game we have played even when I was TOWN too (oops)
I don't think he has ever seen a D2
Storyteller ,Archangel and Paranoia ALWAYS ping me so I'm no help there
Fluid D and CIaS could be good targets - to me
good advice at the end too
also REMEMBER to respond like you don't know nuffin either TMI can get a Scum lynched in a heartbeat. even if they are talking about YOUR role you have not a clue what that role can/cannot do (and don't say that either! wiki links are a great tool to hide in.
BTW Ginger the Godfather investigates TOWN (unless SisC has an interesting sense of humour)
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Post by March Hare on May 7, 2011 10:59:57 GMT -5
Another thought. Since Ed is acting different and it is no secret that him and Dirx have a thing, if we take out one of them the other will be suspect?
I'm spitballing here
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Post by March Hare on May 7, 2011 11:01:32 GMT -5
neta @ Ginger the godfather investages AS TOWN ( darn my fingers)
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Post by SisterCoyote on May 7, 2011 12:22:44 GMT -5
@ SisterCoyote, how is the politician's vote reflected in the vote count? Does it appear at Dawn on the selected votee assigned to the targeted voter? The person who is forced to vote must vote as required in their first post; if they do not they will be penalized as per the rules thread. They may not change their vote throughout the day. Yes. Ginger and/or LightFoot must specifically state LightFoot's power is being used; otherwise, I will assume it is the standard Night Kill.
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Post by SisterCoyote on May 7, 2011 12:26:39 GMT -5
Sister, when you PM my target, is there anything in the PM about who or why their vote is being forced?
Also, in the Day thread I had asked if we could get cover PMs but I did not see a response from you. Is that possible?
Answering your second question first; I saw that question but I needed to think it through. If needed, I will provide available (i.e., not in use) character names and you should use the list of roles if you're planning to claim. The only thing the player forced will know is that they are required to vote for "Player X" and may not change their vote, which must be posted in their first post of the day.
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Post by 5 of Hearts on May 7, 2011 13:01:41 GMT -5
ED is on the other game, but it is kind of at a stand still right now, just waiting for the day to be over with there. Ed has not really participated over there either.
I do have a feeling that someone on TOWN will do something to Moley, be it the COP, The watcher, the DOC...
I would be good with doing the vote thing on BillMc people tend to look at how he votes and what he says, especially after the Everafter game where he got SCUM every time.
I voted for Moley because I wanted to see his reaction and I got it... I also played dumb with the MadBomber comment I made in one of my posts to get his reaction again. He even believed that I was being stupid... I play dumb very well, well sometimes the line between play and are is very thin in this game...
So the only people that can make the kill tonight is:
Guiri, Lightfoot or Me
I am somewhat against me. If I do the kill and by chance I am investigated, I will show as SCUM.
What kind of reading are you getting on Merestil Haye? I find it odd that gnarlycharlie called him out for not posting and then in the very next post he shows up.
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